SUNSHINE - NO ONE SURVIVES: Not The Physicist
Physicist Capa (Cillian Murphy) dies while attempting to explode the payload.
I Was a Not The Physicist Weakling.
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Why do people think this movie is scientifically accurate? It pays absolutely no attention to facts. Its a thriller movie, not science fiction. I don't mind that the movie isn't accurate because its just a movie, but the fact that people seem to think it is really shows that modern man is not educating his kids half as much as he should. There is very little scientific accuracy here. All this surrealism people keep talking about came off as cheap special effects and weak plot twists to me. Do yourself a favor and go read a Robert Heinlein book, something that challenges you to think.
Hahah, my favorite quote from the movie: "90% of all dust is human skin." HAH! That shows how far the writer and director's understanding of science goes, beyond that they are clueless.
I thought it was a good movie. I agree; the people all about science fact are also the type of people who believe in things for which there is no scientific proof. Take "Man Made Global Warming" for example. In order to believe that humans are responsible for climate change requires faith. There is no scientific fact to the whole idea. But let's attack the movie! Whatever...
I think that they did a better job than most movies. They didn't make things in the future look too "futuristic". They mentioned that the timeline is only 50 years in the future... The design of the ship was good. I think it looked more like something people might actually be able to build.
I recommend this movie. It is interesting; it combines a lot of different ideas, and does it well. Check it out on DVD because it’s out now…
I loved the movie. The fact that the writers and the director seem to have taken a lot of time to make this movie scientifically accurate just puts the cherry on top. There are many people who commented here with ignorant opinions like saying that it is only a movie, and it's only for entertainment. I, personally, was entertained because the writers took facts and laws of modern science and built the story around those rules and laws while adding some very cool fantasy ideas and some kick-ass special effects. Contact was my favorite sci-fi movie, but now i'm not so sure anymore.
The fact that everyone dies does NOT give away the movie whatsoever. I recommend still watching it; it's a beautiful film that utilizes cinematic techniques perfectly, and the acting is excellent.
My only complaint is Capa's death scene; so...did he die? or didn't he?
This movie is beautiful.
The director says he was trying to create terror with light... i thought i knew what that meant, but didn't really appreciate it until after having watched the film.
And yes, the trailer and the site give a lot away, but there's a lot more to the film that the deaths of the crew. A bigger picture....
It is awe inspiring.
To state it simply, I enjoyed Sunshine immensely. It was shown in only one theater several miles from my home and now it is no longer playing. Why, I wonder, was it not shown in wide release? I'll wait patiently for it to come out on DVD.
This is a good movie. They give away the deaths? so what? it the things that happen between the start and the dying that interesting anyway.
Well, I have this movie on DVD and have seen it four times already, the ending is a blast, best I have ever seen in SF and it IS better than Bladerunner, Alien etc. The end actually shows the slowing of time due to relativistic effects, Capa sees the neutrons exploding into chain reaction, time is slowed and possibly he lives forever, who knows? It is wonderful science and fiction all rolled together, anyone who can witness the blast off of the payload as its engines ignite and the vast interior of the bomb...well, the end is the best, the absolute best, because it is actually the beginning.
Love this movie, will watch it again and again.
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Having only seen a trailer, and reading comments, it is my personal belief that this movie will go down in film history as an instant cult classic of the same caliber as Alien.
But I won't KNOW until I see it.
I just saw it and thought it was great. I went in to it only knowing that it was about reigniting the sun, Cillian Murphy was in it, and it was directed by Danny Boyle. That was enough for me, but then there was so much more!
A meditation on consequences, man's place in the universe, man's interaction with God or the unknowable Other, and breathtaking forces in that universe. The sheer unbelievable arrogance that we tiny insignificant specks, who crisp out of existance in a millisecond when confronted with the unsheilded force of the sun, the arrogance that those specks could force something as powerful as that sun to change? That arrogance is exactly what makes the story compelling.
Y'all need to stop being whiny punks. Seriously. Glory in the visuals. It's gorgeous!
I just saw the movie last night, and none of these videos give the movie away. Your expectations will be exceeded. It is a fantastic movie, both for people who know nothing about science, and people who know a lot about science. (I am a science major, my friend is a music major; we saw it together and were both equally amazed.) For those of you who are upset that the movie isn't scientifically accurate, I highly recommend seeing it so that you can be just as surprised as I was with how realistic it really is.
And keep in mind: there are a lot of things that we as humans (and scientists) still do not know - ESPECIALLY about the sun and outer space. Our idea on how the sun creates its vast amounts of energy is an educated guess-a very good educated guess, but a guess none the less. The great thing about science fiction is that a writer can make guesses about the future, and from these guesses create a story that is imaginative and entertaining for us. This movie has done that: so unless you have a time machine and can travel forward to see just how 50 years in the future will look, you should really keep your mouth shut and enjoy the movie.
You are all so well educated and make such valid points. It's a shame you are not making money from your intellect and debating skills, as the makers of this movie are making from their supposed inaccuracies. It's JUST A MOVIE PEOPLE! If you don't like it, don't watch it...
((quote: "facts in science fiction are like punctuation in a good book. the misspelling of words and misuse of grammar has nothing to do with entertainment unless you are reading a bathroom joke book.
science fiction's flirtation with futuristic probabilities while maintaining respect for its boundaries and parameters (science fact) is what science fiction is all about.
just as no one believes or respects a writer who misspells words, sloppy facts in science fiction means the writer didn't really care about his material and worse, doesn't respect the intelligence of his reader."
Hmm. So I take it you find that neither James Joyce (famous for breaking grammatical rules) nor Ray Bradbury (never incorporated a single scientific fact in any of his science fiction stories) are serious writers worth respect?))
ray bradbury (who did use scientific facts in his writing) wrote futuristic fantasy, which is lumped into science fiction because its futuristic. think star wars - not an ounce of more than casual fact, but considered sci fi by everyone except the people that made the movie happen (lucas will tell you "myth" and "fantasy").
to me, a science fiction (real sci fi now, not fantasy) needs credibility and respect for some science. for example, an opening scene in Armageddon shows the shuttle exploding with fireballs in space, which simply does not happen. (nor does a nice pretty "shockwave ring" after a nuke goes off).
sci fi (my fave genre) needs credibility, even to a layman with no scienific knowledge whatsoever, in order to be good.
Forget all the scientific bla bla. Have any of you super geniuses ever heard of spellcheck?
Have to admit.
Why anyone complain about "spoiler" death videos? The ship is flying towards the Sun, no one would survive anyway. Seen the movie, there are no spoilers in the vids - you get NO IDEA what happens and why.
And there's much more to see than simple life termination.
People keep complaining that the sotry was ruined for them. If thats the case, you know the titles of the viodeos ower ehte detah of someone, so why did you even bother watching them if you know its gonna give away who dies?
I haven't seen the movie, and now that it's been spoiled for me "I will wait for the DVD." I go to the movie to be surprised and that's now been taken away.
Why is it necessary to let everyone know that EVERYONE dies before the movie has even been released in theatres (in Canada). I was interested in seeing this movie, hence, I came to this site. But I didn't really want the movie spoiled like that...not impressed.
Fox Searchlight is CLEARLY writing many of these comments to boost interest in a movie that is going from theaters to DVD faster than the speed of light.
Ouch! ha-ha-hooooT! The sufcae of the sun is ho-ho-hoooo-HOT! It's BURNING my TOES OFF!
quote: "facts in science fiction are like punctuation in a good book. the misspelling of words and misuse of grammar has nothing to do with entertainment unless you are reading a bathroom joke book.
science fiction's flirtation with futuristic probabilities while maintaining respect for its boundaries and parameters (science fact) is what science fiction is all about.
just as no one believes or respects a writer who misspells words, sloppy facts in science fiction means the writer didn't really care about his material and worse, doesn't respect the intelligence of his reader."
Hmm. So I take it you find that neither James Joyce (famous for breaking grammatical rules) nor Ray Bradbury (never incorporated a single scientific fact in any of his science fiction stories) are serious writers worth respect?
facts in science fiction are like punctuation in a good book. the misspelling of words and misuse of grammar has nothing to do with entertainment unless you are reading a bathroom joke book.
science fiction's flirtation with futuristic probabilities while maintaining respect for its boundaries and parameters (science fact) is what science fiction is all about.
just as no one believes or respects a writer who misspells words, sloppy facts in science fiction means the writer didn't really care about his material and worse, doesn't respect the intelligence of his reader.
it also distracts from the real issue and that is the thematic and scientific probabilities which in itself should serve as the entertainment, unless you are so brain dead that you cant get exited about anything but boobs, cigarettes and women on top.
Am I the only one who is annoyed and disgusted by all of the spoilers that appear on the home page for this film? Whose brilliant idea was it to give away the film in that way? Loved the movie despite sexy lingerie the fact that I already was told what happens, but it will keep many from going to buy a ticket (why, when you already know the ending?) Ridiculous decision.
I can safely say that this part of the movie blew my mind! I already saw it as it ran in Germany a couple of months ago. It's SciFi meets SciFact, so don't expect that it's completely logical.
One more thing: To all you know-it-alls - get a life! Why is it that everytime a SciFi movie is released, you get to bash it while 99.9% of ALL movies are illogical and unrealistic?!? PLEASE do us all a favor and do NOT watch it and just shut up!
To everybody else: Enjoy the film. It's really quite good.
I know quite a lot about science, planetary science, physics, and solar science in particular--more than the average movie goer, that is. Solar science is a wonderful topic. Don't believe me? Go to SOHO's Space Weather page (I think there's even a link on Sunshine's pages somewhere) and watch day after day. You will begin to see what you have been missing...
EVEN STILL, I can suspend disbelief for this film. Why? Because I haven't seen it yet. There were aspects of 2001: A Space Odyssey and 2010: The Year We Make Contact that were paranormal to human perception.
Contact, a Carl Sagan story turned film, /also/ had that surreal quality of ... how do I say? I suppose the best word is Otherness.
The producers have given away a central theme in the movie already: NO ONE SURVIVES. They have given clips of the crew's death. I'm sure that "PATHETIC" hasn't considered that there may be another layer of meaning going on that we /can't/ yet see and which will only be revealed upon watching the film itself. To pick out one detail of a scene from a movie which one has not watched (I assume) and to blast it for scientific inaccuracy is just being a troll. I don't normally waste my time on trolls, but I wanted everyone to know that EVEN scientifically-knowledgeble people (I would say ESPECIALLY scientifically-knowledgeble people) can watch films with odd premises and enjoy them for what they are.
And, even be inspired by them.
I came to my love of science through my love of science fiction. The first Scifi book I picked up was a magical door in disguise. Maybe somewhere in Sunshine, there is a magical door, even for trolls like "Pathetic."
-- Namaste
Suspension of disbelief does not mean you have to become a drooling idiot to enjoy a movie. When are you guys going to wake up? Your audience has become so sophisticated, it no longer wants the monster to have a zipper.
Seriously, it's a movie, a form of entertainment, not a documentary.
In movies computers beep when finishing any minor task, cars can take hairpin turn at 180 mph without melting the rubber on the tires, firearms have no recoil and a variable amount of bullets between reloads, thunder crashes at the same time lightning strikes, and people can scream in a room that there is no air.
Suspend your disbelief, that's what movies are for!
OHNOZ. The science FICTION movie isn't perfectly scientifically realistic!
ALERTZ TEH INTRA-WEBZ.
I hope they record your IP and nuke your ability to interact with the internet to a crisp.
Right, once again the man would not have survived the intense inferno that would have preceded the suns surface expanding toward him. He would not have survived to be where he was to detonate the payload! Even if he did he would not have lived long enough to utter a scream before dying given that all of the oxygen should have been consumed by the expanding flame. Can't they get anything right?
Fox Searchlight is CLEARLY writing many of these comments to boost interest in a movie that is going from theaters to DVD faster than the speed of light.
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