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PATHETIC!!! Does no one know anything about science? He would have vaporized instantly, not be burned to death! This whole film is ludicrous and completely foolish. It's like something from a Japanese anime. "Ooooo, let's all watch them die and suffer." Sick...

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Here in Mexico it was like the movie of the Year, a very good film. And it was totally real with physics and all that stuff.

PATHETIC!!! Does no one know anything about science? He would have vaporized instantly, not be burned to death! This whole film is ludicrous and completely foolish. It's like something from a Japanese anime. "Ooooo, let's all watch them die and suffer." Sick...

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To the people who think he was standing on the sun your stupid. Its obvious he was on the sun shield on the space ship and the stuff that looked like a wave that was the sun light reflected off of it as it was turned. am I the only one who isn't stupid.

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this movie is a story, and an allegory. (if you don't know what that is, look it up.) want some core reasons to stop the "what's possible" discussion right now?

1. the sun won't die for another 5 billion years, plus or minus. do you think human beings will even be alive on earth then? if so, do you think they will look, speak, eat and act pretty much the same way they do now? if we're still around in 5 billion years, do you think we'll still be completely unprepared for the death of our sun?

2. when the sun dies, it won't just fade out like an unattended fire in a fireplace. it will first swell into a red giant, somewhere between 200 and 700 times its current radius. scientists aren't sure if it will actually swallow the earth in the process, but they are sure that at the very least, it will boil the oceans and atmosphere off our planet. rather than chilling into a snow globe, the earth will be a charred rock.

3. the sun will eventually go out because it depletes its nuclear fuel. therefore, unless you have a missle filled with trillions of tons of hydrogen, simply sending a nuclear bomb/reactor into a nuclear reactor will do nothing.

therefore, the entire premise of the movie is technically untenable. given these facts, of which we can assume the writers, directors, etc. are largely aware, we should realize we need to move on, and examine the core ideas and metaphors presented by the film.

think about what the the events in the film tell us about human strength and fraility, uncertainty, greed, conflict, violence, power struggles, etc.

that will give you a start in the right direction.

Here in Mexico it was like the movie of the Year, a very good film. And it was totally real with physics and all that stuff.

Well here in usa no one 'never heard of that' wooww can't believe it, they love to watch trashy movies, goshhh why american people are so ignorant well 75% sorry ! and I want the music pleaseeeeee , well me and 10 more people watched at the AMC in grapevine ,..bye

Most people in the u.s are stupid thats why most movies that are boxoffice hits are shit! This movie was really good!!!

WE WANT THE OFFICIAL SOUNDTRACK!!!

This simple sequenz in the movie... GREAT! I love it!

I have yet to see the movie, and I hope to see it soon.... One of the things I can't understand is the people on this board who haven't even seen the movie calling it a rip off of other movies.

If people hadn't noticed, alot of GREAT movies are rip offs of other movies. Deep Impact / Armageddon any movie dealing with the Apocolypse, the End of the world, Aliens, Independance Day, War of the Worlds. Someone takes someones idea and goes one step further making a better, more watchable, more memorable movie.

Alot of people LOVED Armageddon, do you really think we could drill on an asteroid? Let alone land a team of people on it to destroy it? Maybe we can, most likely not though. Just like people bitching about how they can't walk on the sun. Hello... SCIENCE FICTION.... next thing I know people are going to start complaining about the new seasons of Battle Star Galactica and Doctor Who saying their unrealistic.
Please no one watch Hero's.... You'll disect that one to pieces.

Its a movie, its EYE Candy. Get over yourselves.

i saw this movie it was awsome
i dont get why?
why are we fighting? who cares whats it about? if the science is incorrect?or how the movie is made up? its just a movieee come on grow up
its just entertainment

Ok, for everyone talking about vaporizing instantly instead of having the time to "burn", consider that there were a great many moments of time "slowing down/standing still" Many elements, and even direct mention of individual/crew epiphany... You even have the embodiment of an antigonist claiming to have directly conversed with "God".

Has anyone bothered to consider the possibility that this scene was meant to be shown in SLOW MOTION, rather than REAL TIME, to add a much deeper meaning to it?

As others have said...it is a Fictional drama, not a documentary.

I must say I typed in a rant mode that last post, some words didn't make sense sorry, also to another statement how he would of flashed into dust almost instantly, don't forget, he is in a extremely durable space/heat suit, those things were not huge and bulky for no reason.

IM TYPING THIS IN ALL CAPS FOR THOSE OF WHO YOU OR "IGNIT" IF YOU CAN'T UNDER STAND A SCENE OR HAVE NOT SEEN THE MOVIE, HES NOT STANDING ON THE SUN, HE IS STANDING ON THE REFLECTIVE SECTION OF THEIR SHIP/PAYLOAD, IT WAS SLIGHTLY TILTING UNTILL IT FINALLY REACHED HIM, HE HAD NO TIME AND KNEW HE WAS GOING TO DIE, DID WHAT HE HAD TO.
end caps... it was a Great movie people really...

If you think that it never can happen that is what people belive about (TV) sound ,internet, planes etc etc and yes we have material today that can wistand super high temp as when we use plasma to cut metal,the sun is a big Fusion reactors we have fusion reactors that generate power by heating hydrogen plasma to 100 million degrees Celsius. This causes hydrogen isotopes to fuse together and release energy. But the blistering plasma has to be contained within a vessel using a donut-shaped magnetic field, created using several powerful superconducting magnets.

Over time, the reactor's plasma-containing vessel will inevitably be damaged by instabilities known as "edge-localised modes" (ELMs) that occur when hot plasma bursts out of the magnetic field. Unless these ELMs can be controlled, expensive components need to be replaced regularly.

Small currents
Researchers at General Atomics, a company based in San Diego, California, US, discovered a simple way to prevent ELMs from occurring. By using a separate magnetic coil to induce small perturbations in the reactor's main magnetic field, they found they could bleed off enough of the plasma particles to prevent the ELMs from bursting out. The solution was tested at an experimental reactor based in San Diego called the DIII-D National Fusion Facility.

" as you can see this is today in the future anything can happen "

I stand corrected.....

"and perhaps we would be able to walk on it"

the question is, can anybody on this forum think?!

can anybody on this forum spell?

You not getting the concept of the movie, moron. This is futuristic, The sun is not what is today, hense the movie, A dying sun, therefor it is not going to be the same sun as what we see today. Although it is still hot, it is not going to have such a disasteristic forces, and perhaps we would be able to walk on it. Plus he is wearing a FUTURISTIC space suit. By todays standard your correct, there is no way he would have burned, but you don't know what type of technology we will have in 1000 years, 500 years, 100 years or even 50 years from now. So just shut up and try to enjoy a movie about something that would never happen anyway.

GREAT FILMAKING
For those who think this is pathetic, I would like to see if you can create a film of this calaber and even a film at all. This is great entertainment and should be taken for this. Have fun. Enjoy the film.

"godd this shit is sooo fake , damn , he would have just vaporize instantly , he wouldn't even have felt it , wait , first of all no one could have even gotten anywhere NEAR the sun ,, haha stupid ass people tryin to make money from such a pathetic film"

Dumbass HE WAS IN A SUIT!!! PAY ATTENTION! PROBALY A HEAT RESISTENT SUIT! NOW EVERYBODY STFU AND WATCH.

then dont fucking watch it, no one is making you watch the trailers, no one is holding a weapon to you forcing you to watch it. so chill the fuck out

that was cool *butthead laugh*

Does no one watch films to simply be entertained anymore? seriously get a hobbie

godd this shit is sooo fake , damn , he would have just vaporize instantly , he wouldn't even have felt it , wait , first of all no one could have even gotten anywhere NEAR the sun ,, haha stupid ass people tryin to make money from such a pathetic film

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All I know is it sounds like the music's gonna be awesome

Its "Final Destination" in Space" and a Event Horizon knock off WEAK Sauce!

I am more inspired by science fiction about something that could *possibly* be true, but is beyond a common-sense understanding. Like in Star Trek when Geordi LaForge would create a "phased neutrino pulse". What the hell is that?? Only about 5 particle physicists know, so it's easy to take their word for it. Watching a guy surf on a wave of million-degree gas is harder to suspend disbelief for though.

Good science fiction (which I love) reaches into things we don't (yet) fully understand, stretching our imagination into what *could* be possible, rather than having us accept a blatant impossibility.

[BTW I will not be checking this post again so don't bother flaming me.]

There is "science fiction" and there is "fantasy" and this story fits somewhere between. So what's wrong with that? It's called "entertainment". We enjoy being entertained. That's what this industry is about.

Despite my background in science and my love of really GOOD science fiction, this movie here.. is "entertainment", not a documentary, not a class lesson in physics.

You may call it pathetic, it is your opinion. I would opine though that you have a problem distinguishing between science fact and "entertainment". This is an overall problem that is growing through our society (vis a vis movies like "The Day After".)

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Science FICTION needs to has some thread of science in it. Throwing around the words space, sun, and fusion does NOT a science fiction movie make.

Why is PATHETIC a whiner, a troll, and a hater? It's his opinon to express and last time I checked that's still legal in this country...It looks to me like a lot of other people on this site are the trolls taking no other argumentative route than to call people names and making no attempt to actually give any reason for this obvious inaccuracy.

Why does every hater need to piss and moan?!? Who cares - if you think it looks stupid, shut up and don't go see it. Problem solved.

lol, first post got rocked.

So what if he doesnt instantly incinerate. This isnt a documentary

"PATHETIC!!! Does no one know anything about science? He would have vaporized instantly, not be burned to death! This whole film is ludicrous and completely foolish. It's like something from a Japanese anime. "Ooooo, let's all watch them die and suffer." Sick..."

This man must go to comedy shows just to prove he won't laugh.

enjoy the movie for what it's worth. Science FICTION

I know quite a lot about science, planetary science, physics, and solar science in particular--more than the average movie goer, that is. Solar science is a wonderful topic. Don't believe me? Go to SOHO's Space Weather page (I think there's even a link on Sunshine's pages somewhere) and watch day after day. You will begin to see what you have been missing...

EVEN STILL, I can suspend disbelief for this film. Why? Because I haven't seen it yet. There were aspects of 2001: A Space Odyssey and 2010: The Year We Make Contact that were paranormal to human perception.

Contact, a Carl Sagan story turned film, /also/ had that surreal quality of ... how do I say? I suppose the best word is Otherness.

The producers have given away a central theme in the movie already: NO ONE SURVIVES. They have given clips of the crew's death. I'm sure that "PATHETIC" hasn't considered that there may be another layer of meaning going on that we /can't/ yet see and which will only be revealed upon watching the film itself. To pick out one detail of a scene from a movie which one has not watched (I assume) and to blast it for scientific inaccuracy is just being a troll. I don't normally waste my time on trolls, but I wanted everyone to know that EVEN scientifically-knowledgeble people (I would say ESPECIALLY scientifically-knowledgeble people) can watch films with odd premises and enjoy them for what they are.

And, even be inspired by them.

I came to my love of science through my love of science fiction. The first Scifi book I picked up was a magical door in disguise. Maybe somewhere in Sunshine, there is a magical door, even for trolls like "Pathetic."

-- Namaste

There is this really important aspect of storytelling -- whether it is fiction in written form, or fiction in visual form -- or even fiction in oral tradition. This aspect is called "suspension of disbelief". Fiction may be, in part, about what might really happen -- it might be a strong warning to take action -- but most often, it is about the joy or fascination of the story, and about our connection to the characters (including some aspect of how much we could see the archetypes that the characters represent in ourselves).

Whether a movie works is less about whether the science is accurate, and more about how passionately the writers can convey the story, draw us into the concept, and how much we become attached to or how well we relate to the characters.

The reason Anime works is because we get drawn into the lives of these characters -- we make them real by our attention.

I have to admit that the trailers and clips capture my interest. They are visually appealing, and the brief glimpses of a couple of the characters begin to draw me into the desire to learn more about them... if the rest of the movie follows that trend, it will be a success regardless of how accurate the science is.

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Why do I see an incongruity between "the mighty scientist" and the fourteen year old who watches Bleach, or some other Anime?

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Hello, science fiction, and good science fiction at that. But it's good to know that scientist such as yourself with intimate knowledge of the construction of his suit and the actual temperature experienced in a vaccuum are keeping it real : )

PATHETIC!!! Does no one know anything about science? He would have vaporized instantly, not be burned to death! This whole film is ludicrous and completely foolish. It's like something from a Japanese anime. "Ooooo, let's all watch them die and suffer." Sick...